There are seven kingdoms in Westeros, and there will be seven seasons of HBO’s blockbuster fantasy Game of Thrones.

So says GoT showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss in an interview with Entertainment Weekly, who admit it was always their plan to complete George R.R. Martin’s epic A Song of Ice and Fire in seven seasons.

“It was our unstated goal, because to start on a show and say your goal is seven seasons is the height of lunacy,”; admits Benioff. “Once we got to the point where we felt like we’re going to be able to tell this tale to its conclusion, that became [an even clearer] goal. Seven gods, seven kingdoms, seven seasons. It feels right to us.”;

HBO programming president Michael Lombardo confirms that he also anticipates the show going seven seasons. “I’m expecting to be sitting down with Dan and David to talk season five and we’ll talk about how things are looking,”  Lombardo old EW. “We’re all very mindful that they’re having conversations all the time with [author George R.R. Martin]. I think they do feel bullish enough that there’s enough story to deliver through season seven. I hate to sound greedy, but our longest shows have gone seven or eight seasons, so seven is a nice long run for us.”;

The fourth season of Game of Thrones premieres Sunday, April 6.