Yes, Alanis Morissette’s baby boy Ever is her special bundle of joy, but it was a tough road after the Grammy winning singer-songwriter gave birth and suffered from postpartum depression.

“I think if there’s any goal in me talking about it, the postpartum experience it would be to eradicate the shame around it,”; she says. “It’s just what happens sometimes and for me, it just took way to long to reach out for help.”;

For Alanis it wasn’t just the mental “swampiness”; but the physical pain as well, “everything hurt for 15 months straight!”; she reveals. “I just thought it was a swampy chapter, if I soldiered it out it would go away, but then I came to realize the longer I waited the more intense it would become.”;

Now things couldn’t be better for Alanis, with a healthy baby, a new album, being inducted into Hollywood’s Rockwalk and the possibility of a new gig on American Idol, which Matte Babel found out would be a “dream”; for [her].

Watch Matte’s uncut interview with Alanis below!