Lorde Talks #MeToo, Cardi B, And More In Billboard Cover Story

Lorde graces the cover of the latest issue of Billboard, and the 21-year-old New Zealand phenom has a lot to say on a wide range of topics in an extensive interview with the venerable music industry mag.

One of those topics is the upcoming Grammy Awards, and she expresses her disappointment that rapper Cardi B was snubbed in the major categories — although “Bodak Yellow (Money Moves)” received nominations for Best Rap Song and Best Rap Performance.

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“Cardi B should have gotten a nomination in one of those big categories,” Lorde insists. “She kind of defined 2017. I wish Jack [Antonoff] got nominated for Producer of the Year, but still he’s well represented, I feel.”

Speaking of Antonoff — who worked with Lorde on her latest album, Melodrama — she says that she and the Bleachers frontman “still FaceTime almost every day. When you work with someone, you sometimes think, Maybe it will just be for this time, and we say we’re going to keep in touch but we won’t. But we really … I’m like, ‘Hey, d**khead, what are you getting me for Christmas?’”

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In the interview, Lorde also shares her opinion on the #MeToo movement. “What is really interesting and important about this moment is that every man I know is having to check himself — having to be aware of his misogynistic biases, having to re-examine his understanding of consent,” she says. “I think that is so overdue and so vital. It’s the kind of thing that only comes about when people are brave enough to share and really bring these dudes down. I think every woman is like, ‘Oh, my God, it’s happening.’

“A really important thing, that Gabrielle Union addressed eloquently, is that we can’t forget that white voices are given their moment much more willingly than voices of colour,” she continues. “It’s so important to realize that people of colour weren’t afforded this luxury of having everybody listen always. But for me, it feels like one of those things where there’s this chasm that opens and it’s never going to close. You don’t get to un-have this moment. This is forever, and the way this trickles down to everyone’s lives is a permanent thing.”

You can read more from Lorde in the new issue of Billboard.

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