Michelle Obama appeared on “The Ellen DeGeneres Show” Thursday in her first televised interview since she left the White House, and the host made sure to quiz her on her new life.
Michelle, 54, who wished Ellen a very happy 60th birthday on the show, talked all about their new home and insisted Barack, 56, thinks he’s been “short-changed.”
The former FLOTUS explained: “He doesn’t have enough closet space… sorry! He’s got the smallest room for his office. Sasha actually killed in this house. She has this two-room suite, it’s all decked out. She’s got a living room area and a bedroom and she designed it,” she added of their 16-year-old daughter.
Michelle then admitted the family, especially their two dogs Bo and Sunny, are still getting used to having things like doorbells for the first time in eight years.
Ellen continued to ask Michelle about the current political climate, to which she replied: “People are afraid but then there are people who feel good about the direction of the country, so I mean, that’s what makes this country complicated because it’s made up of so many different people from different backgrounds.”
Michelle went on, “I mean, we are this mosh pit of society and sometimes there’s a rub, but the thing that we have to remember, the thing I learned in the eight years I was in the White House was that what we do every day in our lives, the good things that we do every day, and we know we do it.
“We show empathy, we care for each other, you know, we do have a lot in common. That’s what it means to lead with hope and not fear. And that’s all we have is hope.”
Watch more in the clip above.