Morrissey completely rejects critics who have called him racist.

The former lead singer of The Smiths has frequently been criticized for supporting far-right parties and politicians, but he’s pushing back on that in a new interview with his nephew Sam Esty Raymer posted on his website.

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“If you call someone racist in modern Britain, you are telling them that you have run out of words. You are shutting the debate down and running off,” Morrissey says. “The word is meaningless now. Everyone ultimately prefers their own race… does this make everyone racist? The people who reduce every conversation down to a matter of race could be said to be the most traditionally ‘racist’ because everything in life is NOT exclusively a question of race, so why make it so?”

Morrissey continues, “Diversity can’t possibly be a strength if everyone has ideas that will never correspond. If borders are such terrible things then why did they ever exist in the first place? Borders bring order. I can’t see how opposing Halal slaughter makes me racist when I’ve objected to ALL forms of animal slaughter all of my life.”

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In the interview, Morrissey also apologizes for some of the nasty things he once said about fellow rocker Robert Smith of The Cure.

“I said some terrible things about him 35 years ago… but I didn’t mean them… I was just being very Grange Hill. It’s great when you can blame everything on Tourette’s syndrome… I take no moral responsibility for whatever I said in 1983… afterall… who does?”

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