Sam Smith is opening up about the moment that “triggered” their transition into a nonbinary person.

Earlier this year, the “How Do You Sleep?” singer announced that they’d be using they/them pronouns. In an interview with Billboard, alongside their “Dancing With a Stranger” co-singer Normani, Smith talked about the way in which the song captured his reality.

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“I had just gone through a breakup and the last thing I wanted to do was write a sad song,” they said. “I was listening to a lot of really sexy music because it made me feel better, so I wanted the song to capture what I was doing: going to clubs and kissing people.”

In fact, Smith revealed that the song allowed them to write more freely.

“There’s a femininity within that song that has ignited a flame within me; it triggered the transition I’ve made into a nonbinary person.”

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This is something Normani praises her collaborator for.

“Sam has a unique way of captivating the audience with vulnerability,” she said. “That was different for me – my fans hadn’t been able to see me in that light. I’m happy the song will always be part of my story as a solo artist.”

You can read the full interview here.

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