Wanda Sykes discusses her upcoming docuseries “Visible: Out on Television” during an appearance on Thursday’s “Ellen DeGeneres Show”.

Sykes explains how the Apple TV+ show, which she executive-produces, investigates how the LGBTQ movement has shaped television.

DeGeneres then asks her about the first gay person she saw on TV.

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Sykes shares, “It had to be Liberace. My grandparents were watching like, ‘That man can play that piano.’ They were cool with it. I mean, you had to know that Liberace was gay.”

DeGeneres then points out, “There are still so many people who don’t believe he’s gay because he never said it.”

Sykes insists, “You don’t have to say it! Those people are dumb.”

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The American pianist passed away in 1987.

The comedian also talks family life, revealing how her 10-year-old twins asked her not to talk about them in public anymore.

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